You gotta love all that Facebook hate

82 thoughts on “You gotta love all that Facebook hate”

  1. Hey Steve,

    Congrats!!! You are famous! You have made it!

    But yes, since starting blogging, I have realized there’s a lot of negativity out there than I ever thought possible!

    Some people need to take a chill pill or find a therapist and figure out why everything that comes out of their mouth is negative.

    Negativity is bad, it will spoil your mind, paralyze your brain, steal your happiness,…

    IRL, I purge negative people from my life, but online, they are everywhere, there’s not much you can do.

    1. Purging your life of negative people is an excellent tactic. Luckily, I don’t have too many people like that, but when I do, they easy stand out…but not in a good way. 🙂

  2. So awesome. I find the reactions from the general populace about these things absolutely fascinating.

    You and your wife have thick skin….. Heck, since you run a YouTube channel you HAVE to. I find that YouTube commenters in general are the lowest form of single-celled organism on the planet. I can only imagine some of the “compliments” you’ve received there!

  3. Anyone who posts their thoughts/actions in the open has to be prepared for this. Have to have thick skin. It happens; be ready for it.

    To be sure, my wife would kill me if I even mentioned anything about selling all our stuff and living in an Airstream. To quote you: “Choose your path. Do your best. Be happy.”

    Regarding the critical comments about low-cost healthcare insurance – it is doable; we do it.

  4. I’m sorry to hear about all the negative comments that you two got. I know it’s easier said than done, but I’d just try to ignore them since they’re not worth your time.

    I just started blogging a couple of months ago. I got some really offensive comments on both my blog and Reddit. At first, I got really upset. Now I just think they’re trolling since no knows who they are on the internet.

    You both are doing great. Don’t let those haters ruin your mood for the day. It’s the holiday season!! ^.^

  5. Interesting collection of thoughts here Steve. I have to say, I couldn’t make up half of these. Anyhow, I thought I would mention something about health insurance. It seems like people are really stuck on your cost. The trouble with this is that you are young. It’s simply not comparable to someone who is 65.

    So yes, you pay a low premium. Lets all recall the point of the supposed healthcare overhaul was to reduce rates on YOUNG people while sticking it to the old people. Anyway, my point is this, by the time you are old something will have happened with this healthcare system – because I just don’t believe that we as a country will let old people live in misery. Also, I haven’t dug too far through your retirement plan, but I am sure that you guys are well inside the SWR. The SWR rate is defined by key moments like the Great Depression and the Inflationary period of the 70s. So the true SWR is actually quite a bit higher. And because we hopefully won’t be entering the Great Depression as you retire (remember sequence of returns) your passive income will likely rise as time goes on and you should be just fine covering medical expenses.

    Let the haters be haters.

  6. Adam Sandler? You haven’t been writing any Holiday songs have you? I love how your story has been spun around, maybe others out there will start realizing there are other paths.

  7. Steve, you guys look great for 30s or any age. Don’t let the haters get you down and keep living the dream, man!

    Also, I love the sentiment that it’s all worth it if you can serve as an example and help just one person. Totally agree.

  8. When you put something out there like this, you gotta expect some negativity. Many people have been drinking the corporate kool-aid for years and don’t know any better. No doubt your posts will get some to change their thinking for the better. I’m proud that I started changing my habits on my own about a year or so before I came across MMM. But all the blogs have really helped me to improve even more and stay on the better path.

  9. I really like that you’re choosing this method to respond – instead of getting caught up in the commentary. Don’t let the negativity get to you – it’s just a sign you’re doing something DIFFERENT! And you already knew that, right? I love seeing how you’re doing things; it’s helping us figure out how WE want to do it.

    1. No worries, Sadie – it’s definitely not getting to us. I just binge-read the comments one day to write this article, then haven’t been back since. 🙂

  10. Love you guys! Don’t worry about the negativity! They were probably taught as kids that if you don’t have anything nice to say say it anyway for attention! Go live your dreams!

  11. And to think….I knew you “when”. You’re a Rockstar. Like any Rockstar, you’ll have those that love to hate. Enjoy it! Fun post.

  12. Having met you and Courtney some of these comments really crack me up. If people would spend as much effort on their own lives as they do tearing down others they’d be so much better off. Anyway, great response, Steve. Thrilled to know you!

  13. Haters gonna hate. It’s the price you pay for your chosen path (the celeb part, not the awesome travel part). 7+ billion folks out there. Some of them are bound to be stupid. It’s unfortunate that they tend to be the loudest (and the most political).

    You guys keep on being you. Y’all are an inspiration.

  14. When everybody has the ability to provide unfiltered comments regarding any subject, you find out just how miserable our society is as a whole. Whatever the people leaving negative comments are doing with their lives, it is obviously not providing them with any happiness. While my ideal life is not traveling in an air-stream full time, your story is truly inspiring and made me analyze every single expense that I have.

    1. Thanks Joe! I can respect the fact that full-time RV travel isn’t for you. It’s definitely not for everyone. But, it’s the lifestyle that counts. Frugal. Happy. Complete!

  15. There is one thing to provide construction criticism to open up a conversation of other opinions, but holy crap on this comment: “They look f’ng horrible for being 30”

    For what it is worth, I completely disagree on that comment. I watch your YouTube channel and you two are adorable! Both with physical looks and personality. 🙂

    I love this quote: “To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing and be nothing.”

    Keep doing you.

  16. Haters gonna hate. I think you’re brilliant and I’m really the only thing that matters soooooooo… 😛

    But really, this reminds me of that tweet that blew up about retirement savings by age. Sensitivity on high and everyone’s a smartass.

  17. Congrats Steve. Internet hate like that is reserved for successful people like yourself — consider it a compliment from the internet!

    How does your story get picked up by CNBC? Do you approach them, or does a writer reach out to you?

    Just curious how that happens.

  18. Lots of hate out there but it comes with the territory of being exposed like that. They are just lazy and want to get attention themselves by spewing negativity. But the exposure and positivity outweighs all that. Your blog is very popular now because of it.
    Like the Sandler comparison, your going to make an album soon and be featured in any comedy movies Steve!?! Hahaha

  19. Screw all the haters Steve! You guys worked hard and earned the lifestyle you’ve chosen. Too many people don’t even know what their life goals are, they just keep aimlessly wondering through life and never accomplish anything. Keep on keeping on!

    1. True, Brewed Journey. And they aren’t as open as they once were, either. Campgrounds always seem to be pretty crowded out there, even during the fall and winter.

  20. Oh wow, you even got shared by Akon!! It’s always funny when people comment on early retirement stories with different variations of “they will run out of money/what about this…/they’re miserable” etc. I’m pretty sure most if not all people in the FIRE community have thought out their early retirement plans well enough to factor for different things.

  21. Eff the haters. Let ’em remain net worth poor, chained to the cubicle, and fake rich (“Look at my expensive things bought with debt!”). You and Courtney are the bomb.

  22. Hey Steve,

    First of all, I want to say thanks for your blog, your story that you share with us, the perspectives you give, and the questions you offer us to contemplate. I actually found your blog through the CNBC article and have been working my way through the archive (starting with “Start Here”, of course). Don’t worry abiut the haters, they apparently have nothing better to do with their lives.

    While working through your blog, many ideas have crossed my mind, and I guess now is as good a time as any to ask them.

    In a recent post, you talked about having a personal business card. Do you have any suggestions about how to come up with or determine what we put on there? To me, this is like a super condensed elevator speech, a speech I always dread giving. Perhaps I have delusions of grandeur, but I find it hard to describe myself satisfactorily in something short and quick.

    How did you decide what you wanted to do after you FIRE’d? I bought the propaganda of going to school, getting good grades, being involved in extra-curricular activities and eventually taking leadership roles, which I was told would lead me to the satisfying, fulfilling job I want. Except it didn’t. I’ve adjusted my goals down from an invigorating, fulfilling job to an intellectually stimulating job to an interesting job to a job that just isn’t miserable but still allows me to pay back my student loans. I’ve gone so far astray of the path I wanted to go down that I’m really not sure what I want my next destination or even path to be. I apologise if this has come off as a sob story, I just wanted to give you the background from which I ask the question. I feel like there has to be something better, but I don’t know what. How did you know what you wanted to do? Any suggestions for how someone in my position could figure out what he wanted to do? How could one find his/her purpose in life after early retirement?

    On a more positive note, in one post you mentioned wanting to travel west to east before taking a Maine to Florida trip in fall. This would put you by the great lakes in summer. I just wanted to throw out a tip: Milwaukee is awesome in Summer and there is over a dozen micro and craft breweries to try 😉 I lived there for 7 years, and they were the best summers (and some of the best beers) of my life.

    1. Wow, totally awesome comment! I’ll see if I can do it justice with a reply.

      Regarding the business card, you’re right, it’s a super condensed elevator speech. For me, I tried to keep my personal business card geared towards what I want other people to know about me. What I do best. What I like to do. It could just be a hobby of yours. Or, something else entirely. In my case, “Content creator” was the best phrase to describe what I want people to know – I create a ton of content, including blog posts, YouTube videos and all kinds of photography. It’s all of those things, not just one. It’s what I do.

      About the life’s purpose question – man, that’s a loaded question. I always enjoyed doing IT work, just never for a large (or, for that matter, small) business. I don’t think I will ever stop doing those things because that’s what I enjoy. Blogging, running a YouTube channel and taking on IT projects keep my mind focused with a feeling of being productive. I suppose that for the most part, I always knew what I wanted to do after achieving freedom from full-time work.

      For other people, it’ll be different. It might be wood working. Or volunteering. Or running for local public office. To me, it all comes down to what you enjoy doing. If you had an entire week to do whatever you wanted – no job, no chores, no nothing…what would you do? What makes you feel productive and accomplished?

      Appreciate the tip about Milwaukee. You can bet that if we find ourselves in that area, we’ll be checking out as many micro and craft breweries that we can. I love trying new beers that I’ve never tried before. 🙂

      I hope that helped some. Feel free to hit me up again if you’d like. As you can see, I kinda enjoy chatting about this stuff.

      1. You gave me an even better response than I hoped for, as you gave me some great food for thought. I guess I need to find the time to figure out what I would do with a whole week. My initial response would be to start knocking off things from my neverending list of things to do around the apartment. Which I guess would eventually end if I dedicated the start of my (hopefully eventual) early retirement to working on it. Maybe I can dedicate some time during holiday travels to contemplating that.

        That and my condensed elevator speech. “Analytical thinker, potential solution identifier” seems a bit vague and unnatural.I guess I still have time before I start printing cards.

        Two tips, just in case you stop enjoying chatting here before you make it to Milwaukee in summer:

        Lake Front Brewery for Friday night fish fry and beer in hand brewery tour (go early, or you’ll be waiting long)
        Louise’s Demise at the Milwaukee Ale House.

          1. Hmm….it does sound catchier and is more succinct. However, I feel like developer sounds like I have an engineering or programming background, neither of which I have, unfortunately. I hate to mislead people, so I shy away from things that I think are likely to be misinterpreted. But definitely more food for thought, thanks!

  23. i can’t count the number of times i had to remind a person or people: i am not here to convince you of anything or sell you on my ways. but i am happy to share what has worked and not worked for me in case you find some value in the story. rock on!

    1. It’s interesting how quickly people seem to “take offense” to people’s stories or assume it’s some “How to”. There’s no one way to retire early. We’re all different. If my way doesn’t work for you, that’s perfectly fine. Choose your own way. But, there’s no reason to get defensive about it.

      …unless there is. 😉

  24. “He looks like Adam Sandler.” That’s seriously the deepest thought this guy/gal has after reading your article? No wonder half of America is imbeciles. Good thing the other half is more like us. The comments, and your reaction to them, made me laugh out loud a few times. I’m proud to be your friend, and not theirs.

  25. Hysterical! When a story like yours goes mainstream I absolutely love the feeding frenzy of ridiculous comments that ensues. It’s as if you reinvented the wheel while also cutting the brakes. Doom is sure to follow. 😉 Though that Adam Sandler comment sure makes up for most of it.

    1. Ha! Yeah, comments can be hysterical. People naturally want to make excuses why they aren’t doing the same thing…but quite frankly, I’m not asking them to do the same thing. They need to do whatever is in their best interest, just like we do. No reason for them to get defensive. 😉

  26. My sister-in-law tagged us on Portland TV station Facebook post about you guys. The comments were pretty funny. One actually asked how a single guy with a car payment and credit card debt could do this.

  27. Crazy how much widespread publicity your story is getting, awesome!! I’ve always found your story one of the most inspiring out there. It’s unfortunate that so many people would rather tear other people down as a defense, rather than examining their own lives and trying to learn. Love your attitude towards it all, you’re having a big impact on people!

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